indyanguy
03-25 08:57 PM
I am curious to know what's stopping the EB3s to port their dates to the EB2 category. I've been seriously considering this lately.
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07-05 11:14 AM
Guys inorder for DOS or DHS or USCIS to get the message they will FIRST and FOREMOST have to understand WHO Gandhi is. For that we will have to attach a few pages of documentation about Mahatma Gandhi. By the time the message gets to the correct person's hands AND he/she understands the true meaning of the message, the person will think we insulted them, coz the the flowers will be dead and dried up and STINKY.
We are not insulting any one....we are just tring to convey our feelings and the pain we are taking by just changing the bulletin. This much better than RALLY or any other way.
Thanks,
Chandra.
We are not insulting any one....we are just tring to convey our feelings and the pain we are taking by just changing the bulletin. This much better than RALLY or any other way.
Thanks,
Chandra.
samrat_bhargava_vihari
06-13 08:27 AM
My 485 application was filed with NSC on June 4th, 2007. I know it is too early to expect receipt notice.
Who will receive the original approval notice?. Attorney or me?. Who will receive the FP notice?.
Thanks a lot
Ram
I guess both of you.
Who will receive the original approval notice?. Attorney or me?. Who will receive the FP notice?.
Thanks a lot
Ram
I guess both of you.
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mirage
03-07 11:48 AM
Nothing had been achieven in last 9 years. Last thing when anything that congress did for immigration was AC21 in 2000. Than how do you thing whatever our agenda is, can be achieved ?? While I think our agenda has to be modified so that we don't ask them what they have been rejecting repeatedly.
Why dont we all stick to a common agenda where there are more chances rather than everyone coming with some and in the end you know what happens...
IV is a platform where people do things together NOT everyone digressing in their own ways..not right...
Why dont we all stick to a common agenda where there are more chances rather than everyone coming with some and in the end you know what happens...
IV is a platform where people do things together NOT everyone digressing in their own ways..not right...
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hiUS
09-17 12:49 PM
Call USCIS and enquire about your card and also verify if your address in their system is correct. Also, get an appt with local USCIS office. All the best!!!
Called USCIS couple of times but I did not get the right response till now. They used to end the call abruptly.
But just now I called again, she told that they need to upload the Biometrics from CSC and she will do that. She told that I will get the card in 30 days...may be the regular time which they mention.
And she told not to take any Infopass appoitment and just to wait for 30 days.
Called USCIS couple of times but I did not get the right response till now. They used to end the call abruptly.
But just now I called again, she told that they need to upload the Biometrics from CSC and she will do that. She told that I will get the card in 30 days...may be the regular time which they mention.
And she told not to take any Infopass appoitment and just to wait for 30 days.
asdcrajnet
02-02 10:16 AM
All the best asdcrajnet.. Both countries are equally good, we have lived in both.. so we know how to adjust..
Few points that you may need to find out before you go..
1) Apply for POI for your kid, you may have already done it. There is a restriction that you need to visit nearby police station every 180 days if your son is in India (because he is a US citizen), try to find out more about that and see what you can do to avoid it (may be get a India visa as opposed to a POI)
If you go to a police station, 100% guarantee they will ask for a bribe or make things difficult for us.
2) The school fees for non-Indian citizens is very high, because your son falls under NRI category, try to find out about it, and if possible share with us too.
Everything is good back home but there are few issues which I see are a problem,
1) Nothing moves ahead without bribery, if we need our stuff to move up the queue, say if it is land registration or getting approval for something - it will not move with bribery and any govt office related work we need to wait a lot and service is bad, unlike here in US there is no bribing and things are so streamlined and good. We can talk about ethics and moral values and not give bribe but then our need will never get fulfilled for years if we decide to go as per queue.
2) If you are in IT, the work hours are horrible, most of IT companies are outside city limits, we will end up going early in the morning and return late night (because hey we need to talk to onsite guys). If an employee leaves at 5:30 or 6 PM it means there he is not working - not sure when this culture would change there. Again most of them work on saturdays, so only sunday is a holiday, here in US i can leave work at 5 PM or 5:30 and come home and spend time with family.
3) Commute is very tough back home - too much traffic than what the roads can handle, there is traffic in US too but it is decent traffic, everyone follows rules and lane sense is there. Back home it is really horrible.
For your PD you have waited for a long time, I would suggest you wait for 1-2 more years and give it a try. We can always go back to India no one is going to stop us, but the return is not very easy. Nowadays h1b approvals and stamping has become a nightmare.
All the best in whatever decision you make. Everything is for good :)
My son Has the PIO card. The rule is we have to register with "Foreigner Registration Office" if he stays for more than 6 months. So I got to do that only once. I think there is some procedure when he turns 18. My son will be studying in a Private school. The fees are the same.
We got to be a Roman in Rome. If we have to bribe a little to get things done, I will do it. I am not there to change India. But I would really try to implement something what I learnt in US. I would never throw garbage in the streets(Preach others not to do it). Be kind to all people.
I lived in India for 23 years and in US for 11 years. I am used to both systems. I love the freedom of expression in US. Other than that I like the Parks and Nature in US. In India it is only reserved for the rich. Other than that both are fine with me. One big advantage in India is the extended family. I love lot of people.
I personally believe I can do more philanthropic deeds in India, because in US I have no time and it is hard for me to learn the system and help someone. Somehow. I cannot connect with the people over here(Its just me). All I do here is if something catastrophic happens, I go to Red cross website and donate some. I don't get the satisfaction in just donating the money. I will be happy if I could participate in changing the lives of a few.
Few points that you may need to find out before you go..
1) Apply for POI for your kid, you may have already done it. There is a restriction that you need to visit nearby police station every 180 days if your son is in India (because he is a US citizen), try to find out more about that and see what you can do to avoid it (may be get a India visa as opposed to a POI)
If you go to a police station, 100% guarantee they will ask for a bribe or make things difficult for us.
2) The school fees for non-Indian citizens is very high, because your son falls under NRI category, try to find out about it, and if possible share with us too.
Everything is good back home but there are few issues which I see are a problem,
1) Nothing moves ahead without bribery, if we need our stuff to move up the queue, say if it is land registration or getting approval for something - it will not move with bribery and any govt office related work we need to wait a lot and service is bad, unlike here in US there is no bribing and things are so streamlined and good. We can talk about ethics and moral values and not give bribe but then our need will never get fulfilled for years if we decide to go as per queue.
2) If you are in IT, the work hours are horrible, most of IT companies are outside city limits, we will end up going early in the morning and return late night (because hey we need to talk to onsite guys). If an employee leaves at 5:30 or 6 PM it means there he is not working - not sure when this culture would change there. Again most of them work on saturdays, so only sunday is a holiday, here in US i can leave work at 5 PM or 5:30 and come home and spend time with family.
3) Commute is very tough back home - too much traffic than what the roads can handle, there is traffic in US too but it is decent traffic, everyone follows rules and lane sense is there. Back home it is really horrible.
For your PD you have waited for a long time, I would suggest you wait for 1-2 more years and give it a try. We can always go back to India no one is going to stop us, but the return is not very easy. Nowadays h1b approvals and stamping has become a nightmare.
All the best in whatever decision you make. Everything is for good :)
My son Has the PIO card. The rule is we have to register with "Foreigner Registration Office" if he stays for more than 6 months. So I got to do that only once. I think there is some procedure when he turns 18. My son will be studying in a Private school. The fees are the same.
We got to be a Roman in Rome. If we have to bribe a little to get things done, I will do it. I am not there to change India. But I would really try to implement something what I learnt in US. I would never throw garbage in the streets(Preach others not to do it). Be kind to all people.
I lived in India for 23 years and in US for 11 years. I am used to both systems. I love the freedom of expression in US. Other than that I like the Parks and Nature in US. In India it is only reserved for the rich. Other than that both are fine with me. One big advantage in India is the extended family. I love lot of people.
I personally believe I can do more philanthropic deeds in India, because in US I have no time and it is hard for me to learn the system and help someone. Somehow. I cannot connect with the people over here(Its just me). All I do here is if something catastrophic happens, I go to Red cross website and donate some. I don't get the satisfaction in just donating the money. I will be happy if I could participate in changing the lives of a few.
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sabbygirl99
03-28 02:38 PM
I have mulled over different options in my head for a long time. Here are some things I came up with:
- switch to a part time H1 (and do something else in your free time that you might find a little more fulfilling, i.e enrolling in PT grad program, starting a business (which you CAN do on an H1!!!), travel!!). I know there is the money factor but most of us are IT people and hopefully taking a cut will be worth the improved life.
- begin your Canadian PR process. This takes a lot less time and honestly, I think Canadians are more cultured anyway. Leave these people to their Paris and Nicoles :)
OK - I guess I didn;t come up with as many options as I had thought.... :)
- switch to a part time H1 (and do something else in your free time that you might find a little more fulfilling, i.e enrolling in PT grad program, starting a business (which you CAN do on an H1!!!), travel!!). I know there is the money factor but most of us are IT people and hopefully taking a cut will be worth the improved life.
- begin your Canadian PR process. This takes a lot less time and honestly, I think Canadians are more cultured anyway. Leave these people to their Paris and Nicoles :)
OK - I guess I didn;t come up with as many options as I had thought.... :)
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shantak
03-18 11:07 AM
I got same exact response as you regarding 60 days wait - only difference is my name check is still pending. Personally, I don't trust this any more until I get it...
Apahilaj,
Any update on your FP. Im still waiting for mine. I dont know how many are like us.
As you said my only concern is will it impact EAD renewal in any way?
People, please throw in some comments who have not received their FP yet
Apahilaj,
Any update on your FP. Im still waiting for mine. I dont know how many are like us.
As you said my only concern is will it impact EAD renewal in any way?
People, please throw in some comments who have not received their FP yet
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garybanz
12-17 10:38 AM
Been in the US since 1998, have an EB-2 PD of 2001, have played by the rules all along. Still no GC... And, the dates are going back to 2000 from the new year.. I've lost hopes...
I'm pretty close to getting clinical depression because of this game played by USCIS, Labor Dept, FBI and my own bad luck.
SKILL bill, OMNIBUS, etc. comes and goes. IV does seem to be doing things to lobby for the community, but let's face one reality. Like a news article said, no one in congress or senate wants to touch immigration even with a long pole until 2009.
The US has been very good to me (other than the GC part), more than my home country (India) which is why I'm still here.
Have invested too much of time in this country to just pack up and go. Just curious if any of you feel this way? How do you handle such depressing feelings?
Switch to EAD...and stop worrying about GC
I'm pretty close to getting clinical depression because of this game played by USCIS, Labor Dept, FBI and my own bad luck.
SKILL bill, OMNIBUS, etc. comes and goes. IV does seem to be doing things to lobby for the community, but let's face one reality. Like a news article said, no one in congress or senate wants to touch immigration even with a long pole until 2009.
The US has been very good to me (other than the GC part), more than my home country (India) which is why I'm still here.
Have invested too much of time in this country to just pack up and go. Just curious if any of you feel this way? How do you handle such depressing feelings?
Switch to EAD...and stop worrying about GC
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I do not know how to give red dots since I do not give any. To give green you have to click on the icon above the post for which you are giving a green dot. I just gave you one.
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rssb
09-23 09:10 PM
dummgelauft porting is happening and you may be correct about non IT companies and big IT companies being unwilling to port.
I can recollect 7 people immediately of which 1 is a genuine EB2 , 1 was a genuine Eb3 (2003) and remaining 3 have done labor substitution in Eb3 , 2 in Eb2 with dates ranging from 2002-2004 during the July Fiasco. 2 Eb2 people already got their GC's.
The other 3 people now have at least 3 years exp from 2007 --> 2010. Making them eligible for Eb2 ( with a variety of education + work exp combinations).
Lucky people are the ones, who could manage to get labor substitution during June-July 2007, got EAD's within 6 months, had the flexibility these 3 years and are now capable of porting to Eb2.
In the end it boils down to how resourceful one is and adapts to the situation and able to make things better for themselves. Same goes for L1 -> EB1 route. Porting by a person who has a substitute labor of 2002 ( in July 2007) will also effect a genuine EB3 application from 2006, as they are moving ahead even in the Eb3 queue.
Porting is here to stay , the only hope for people is to combine efforts and try to follow up on the various proposals ( STEM Exemption, visa recapture, counting dependents in family quota, and provide relief to people by at least letting them file 485's without waiting for dates to become current )
I can recollect 7 people immediately of which 1 is a genuine EB2 , 1 was a genuine Eb3 (2003) and remaining 3 have done labor substitution in Eb3 , 2 in Eb2 with dates ranging from 2002-2004 during the July Fiasco. 2 Eb2 people already got their GC's.
The other 3 people now have at least 3 years exp from 2007 --> 2010. Making them eligible for Eb2 ( with a variety of education + work exp combinations).
Lucky people are the ones, who could manage to get labor substitution during June-July 2007, got EAD's within 6 months, had the flexibility these 3 years and are now capable of porting to Eb2.
In the end it boils down to how resourceful one is and adapts to the situation and able to make things better for themselves. Same goes for L1 -> EB1 route. Porting by a person who has a substitute labor of 2002 ( in July 2007) will also effect a genuine EB3 application from 2006, as they are moving ahead even in the Eb3 queue.
Porting is here to stay , the only hope for people is to combine efforts and try to follow up on the various proposals ( STEM Exemption, visa recapture, counting dependents in family quota, and provide relief to people by at least letting them file 485's without waiting for dates to become current )
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10-26 12:03 AM
Hi Ahimsa and other poster who questioned this:
Why SKULL bill ? As a high level manager I have learned after years of experience that you need to use good sense of humor, satirize when confronted with insanities and very stressful situations. In my life such a twaddle this immigration process has been that I need to come up to this forum and sometimes make some of us laugh a little bit from this situation. Calling it SKULL bill is a way to apply my sense of humor to this process. Please do not take this as an offense.
Please, please. Folks, didn't you see immigration-law.com and AILA.org - a reliable pro immigration sources - outlining that that anti CIR calls outnumbered the pro CIR calls 400:1 ? Go to AILA.org and research the info there by yourself if you don't trust me.
One more indication for you, which doesn't rely on biased polls:
In spite of massive lobby and muscles leveraged by the corporate sector, why do you think immigration bills - both pro legal and pro illegal - have been unsuccessful in the last two years ? Come on guys, by now you should not be questioning whether the public is against amnesty or even legal immigration. It is evident that the majority of citizens do not benefit from more immigration. Do you have an idea how much lobbying $ got involved on this without much success so far ? I am surprised that you are even raising this question. Why Americans should want more foreigners to compete with them when the real wages have declined ? That would defy logic.
Here, a fresh related evidence. Those who have an open mind should be able to understand this:
http://diversity.monster.com/articles/coming_to_america/?WT.mc_n=MNL000283
Does the Workplace Welcome Differ?
Are Americans more welcoming to Asian immigrants than to Hispanics/Latinos? C.N. Le, who directs the Asian American Studies Program at the University of Massachusetts, calls it "a complicated issue." She thinks that "Americans in general are becoming slightly less welcoming to immigrants in general. Part of it has to do with illegal immigration, but it spills over and affects legal immigrants too. There is always workplace tension between those who gets jobs, and those who get left out."
Talk about this article and get advice on the Diversity at Work message board.
Here is a fresh poll for you, since you asked:
source:numbersusa.com (the poll was not conducted by numbersusa.com though).
QUESTION A: If immigration continues at its current level for the next 50 years, experts estimate that it will add approximately 100 million people to the United States population, which currently is 300 million. Knowing this, would you say the country needs to:
% SAYING
NOTE: Typically, poll results for categories are released to the public in rounded numbers that will tend not to add up precisely to 100%.
REDUCE number of immigrants INCREASE number of immigrants Keep number the same Not sure
ALL VOTERS 64 3 26 6
Male 64 3 26 6
Female 65 2 26 6
PARTY
Democrat 59 2 32 6
Independent 59 4 31 4
Republican
Immigration is a demographic imperative for America and the rest of the western world. Fact is the modern western cultures that empower women, encourage them to the workplace, make contraception/abortion freely available and make alternative lifestyles a choice, leads to a drop in fertility rates. Liberal leaning countries have amongst the lowest fertility rates, well below replacement levels.
The above makes it an imperative to import labour and yes sheer people to take care of the old and infirm, to keep the service sector rolling even if manufacturing etc is outsourced. The only question is what kind of immigration and how much of it. In short the answer is the USA is not a dumb country, it generally always acts in its self interest faced with these choices. I believe EB immigration will soon be liberalised. This would be a smart thing especially if coupled with a crackdown on illegal immigration.
US population is growing yes, but the elderly population is exploding. More are getting older (baby boomers) and once there there they are sticking aroung longer. I wish there was a measure of working age population only, the growth of that population is probably much less than that of the general population.
Why SKULL bill ? As a high level manager I have learned after years of experience that you need to use good sense of humor, satirize when confronted with insanities and very stressful situations. In my life such a twaddle this immigration process has been that I need to come up to this forum and sometimes make some of us laugh a little bit from this situation. Calling it SKULL bill is a way to apply my sense of humor to this process. Please do not take this as an offense.
Please, please. Folks, didn't you see immigration-law.com and AILA.org - a reliable pro immigration sources - outlining that that anti CIR calls outnumbered the pro CIR calls 400:1 ? Go to AILA.org and research the info there by yourself if you don't trust me.
One more indication for you, which doesn't rely on biased polls:
In spite of massive lobby and muscles leveraged by the corporate sector, why do you think immigration bills - both pro legal and pro illegal - have been unsuccessful in the last two years ? Come on guys, by now you should not be questioning whether the public is against amnesty or even legal immigration. It is evident that the majority of citizens do not benefit from more immigration. Do you have an idea how much lobbying $ got involved on this without much success so far ? I am surprised that you are even raising this question. Why Americans should want more foreigners to compete with them when the real wages have declined ? That would defy logic.
Here, a fresh related evidence. Those who have an open mind should be able to understand this:
http://diversity.monster.com/articles/coming_to_america/?WT.mc_n=MNL000283
Does the Workplace Welcome Differ?
Are Americans more welcoming to Asian immigrants than to Hispanics/Latinos? C.N. Le, who directs the Asian American Studies Program at the University of Massachusetts, calls it "a complicated issue." She thinks that "Americans in general are becoming slightly less welcoming to immigrants in general. Part of it has to do with illegal immigration, but it spills over and affects legal immigrants too. There is always workplace tension between those who gets jobs, and those who get left out."
Talk about this article and get advice on the Diversity at Work message board.
Here is a fresh poll for you, since you asked:
source:numbersusa.com (the poll was not conducted by numbersusa.com though).
QUESTION A: If immigration continues at its current level for the next 50 years, experts estimate that it will add approximately 100 million people to the United States population, which currently is 300 million. Knowing this, would you say the country needs to:
% SAYING
NOTE: Typically, poll results for categories are released to the public in rounded numbers that will tend not to add up precisely to 100%.
REDUCE number of immigrants INCREASE number of immigrants Keep number the same Not sure
ALL VOTERS 64 3 26 6
Male 64 3 26 6
Female 65 2 26 6
PARTY
Democrat 59 2 32 6
Independent 59 4 31 4
Republican
Immigration is a demographic imperative for America and the rest of the western world. Fact is the modern western cultures that empower women, encourage them to the workplace, make contraception/abortion freely available and make alternative lifestyles a choice, leads to a drop in fertility rates. Liberal leaning countries have amongst the lowest fertility rates, well below replacement levels.
The above makes it an imperative to import labour and yes sheer people to take care of the old and infirm, to keep the service sector rolling even if manufacturing etc is outsourced. The only question is what kind of immigration and how much of it. In short the answer is the USA is not a dumb country, it generally always acts in its self interest faced with these choices. I believe EB immigration will soon be liberalised. This would be a smart thing especially if coupled with a crackdown on illegal immigration.
US population is growing yes, but the elderly population is exploding. More are getting older (baby boomers) and once there there they are sticking aroung longer. I wish there was a measure of working age population only, the growth of that population is probably much less than that of the general population.
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h1techSlave
05-01 02:40 PM
Didn't Logfren ask that question to USCIS during last July?
actually the other question is why doesnt Murthy or IV asks the USCIS (whenever they get a chance to meet) ..to give a breakdown of the 485 pending by category by country. one would hope that atleast someone in uscis has access to such reports .. any idea, thoughts ??
actually the other question is why doesnt Murthy or IV asks the USCIS (whenever they get a chance to meet) ..to give a breakdown of the 485 pending by category by country. one would hope that atleast someone in uscis has access to such reports .. any idea, thoughts ??
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08-19 11:18 AM
My 2 paisa ( though it has no value anymore anywhere)
First and foremost we have to realize that we are fee paying customers to USCIS. We have a right to demand better customer service. The reports and other kind of data they are releasing currently is an insult to the high skilled immigrant community. It is time we call out that the king (USCIS) has no clothes. They have been feeding us garbage disguised as reports and offical data. Anybody with a high school degree would say that the reports and data provided have zero value since they are not complete.
How do we get the right kind of information from USCIS?
Here are the steps
a) Send letters to the Dept chief asking for the data we need and wait for 3-4 weeks for a response. ( Data we should ask for, apps pending with PD's and EB category for every month starting from 1998)
b) Send another letter to the President and copy USCIS chief on that. Wait for another 3-4 weeks
c) If we do not get any satisfactory information after the previous 2 steps and 2 months of waiting, we should do a relay protest in DC and in front of all the USCIS centers until they provide us with the exact data.
By doing this we woould have put enough spotlight on USCIS and also our problmes would have got enough coverage in the media. From here we can try and work with the various agencies to push for our other agendas. Now we will have a clearer picture of what the situation is and ask for the right things. At the same time the agencies will have the better information with them to look in to our issues.
Comments are welcome.
First and foremost we have to realize that we are fee paying customers to USCIS. We have a right to demand better customer service. The reports and other kind of data they are releasing currently is an insult to the high skilled immigrant community. It is time we call out that the king (USCIS) has no clothes. They have been feeding us garbage disguised as reports and offical data. Anybody with a high school degree would say that the reports and data provided have zero value since they are not complete.
How do we get the right kind of information from USCIS?
Here are the steps
a) Send letters to the Dept chief asking for the data we need and wait for 3-4 weeks for a response. ( Data we should ask for, apps pending with PD's and EB category for every month starting from 1998)
b) Send another letter to the President and copy USCIS chief on that. Wait for another 3-4 weeks
c) If we do not get any satisfactory information after the previous 2 steps and 2 months of waiting, we should do a relay protest in DC and in front of all the USCIS centers until they provide us with the exact data.
By doing this we woould have put enough spotlight on USCIS and also our problmes would have got enough coverage in the media. From here we can try and work with the various agencies to push for our other agendas. Now we will have a clearer picture of what the situation is and ask for the right things. At the same time the agencies will have the better information with them to look in to our issues.
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Chris Rock
09-24 12:32 PM
Some do not like Porting; some do not like Spillover allocation. And some do not like the interfiling. Remember, interfiling is like porting too.
Porting is the law right now. It is not easy to change the law these days.
Even if the law is modified, people who already started the porting process will be grandfathered. Thousands of porting application will be filed before the modified law become effective. That is what happened during PERM introduciton.
My 2 cents.
Porting is the law right now. It is not easy to change the law these days.
Even if the law is modified, people who already started the porting process will be grandfathered. Thousands of porting application will be filed before the modified law become effective. That is what happened during PERM introduciton.
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skillet
11-21 03:21 PM
I am dumbstruck. I do not have words to express anything. May god give you enough strength to face this. Explore all the remedies. Believe in yourself. You will be fine
Regarding GC, I think its better to consult immigration attorneys
Good luck
Regarding GC, I think its better to consult immigration attorneys
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12-16 05:22 AM
here's my list. would love to hear others.
1. listen to music.
e.g. kishore songs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjjK_37OpNM
sing !
2. read a good book.
e.g. Emerson essay on compensation.
"For everything you have missed you have gained something else."
http://www.rwe.org/works/Essays-1st_Series_03_Compensation.htm
i think it's a very powerful essay for life.
3. go to the gym. workout. jog. lift weights. play a game.
table tennis really helps.
resolve to be your fittest.
adversity must make us stronger, not weaker.
4. travel internationally
take a trip to some country you've never gone to before.
observe people's olympic struggles.
it's part of the human experience.
5. learn a new skill
something you've always wanted to do but did'nt get around to.
public speaking, dancing, singing...your choice.
take a class at a community college or a university.
6. go to temple or church or mosque.
make a deeper spiritual connection with God.
let him lift some of your burden.
i listened to Hari Om Sharan after many years and experienced a real sense of joy.
7. spend time learning about US government.
get to know more about how government works. why does house vote differently than the senate ?
get to know the 100 senators and 435 house reps. especially how they stand on legal immigration.
our friends on the other side of the fence have done us a favor by organizing this information
http://grades.betterimmigration.com/index.php3
just reverse the grades. consider approaching reps/senators with your situation.
8. learn from IV efforts of previous years
many skills were introduced which could have helped us. what can we learn from what failed ?
e.g. comprehensive immigration bill 2006. it passed in the senate but stalled in the house.
Gandhigiri did work this year. it was a major success story we should celebrate and learn from.
9. accept and enjoy the present.
accept the present moment. breathe.
enjoy nature - the sun, the moon, the heavens, fresh air and water. make new associations and friends.
experiencing these gifts of life is enough to keep one happy.
10. write it out.
record the feelings you are going through in writing.
capture the details.
what was your journey, your expectations, your highs and lows ?
you may see your struggles in a different light 10 years from now.
1. listen to music.
e.g. kishore songs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjjK_37OpNM
sing !
2. read a good book.
e.g. Emerson essay on compensation.
"For everything you have missed you have gained something else."
http://www.rwe.org/works/Essays-1st_Series_03_Compensation.htm
i think it's a very powerful essay for life.
3. go to the gym. workout. jog. lift weights. play a game.
table tennis really helps.
resolve to be your fittest.
adversity must make us stronger, not weaker.
4. travel internationally
take a trip to some country you've never gone to before.
observe people's olympic struggles.
it's part of the human experience.
5. learn a new skill
something you've always wanted to do but did'nt get around to.
public speaking, dancing, singing...your choice.
take a class at a community college or a university.
6. go to temple or church or mosque.
make a deeper spiritual connection with God.
let him lift some of your burden.
i listened to Hari Om Sharan after many years and experienced a real sense of joy.
7. spend time learning about US government.
get to know more about how government works. why does house vote differently than the senate ?
get to know the 100 senators and 435 house reps. especially how they stand on legal immigration.
our friends on the other side of the fence have done us a favor by organizing this information
http://grades.betterimmigration.com/index.php3
just reverse the grades. consider approaching reps/senators with your situation.
8. learn from IV efforts of previous years
many skills were introduced which could have helped us. what can we learn from what failed ?
e.g. comprehensive immigration bill 2006. it passed in the senate but stalled in the house.
Gandhigiri did work this year. it was a major success story we should celebrate and learn from.
9. accept and enjoy the present.
accept the present moment. breathe.
enjoy nature - the sun, the moon, the heavens, fresh air and water. make new associations and friends.
experiencing these gifts of life is enough to keep one happy.
10. write it out.
record the feelings you are going through in writing.
capture the details.
what was your journey, your expectations, your highs and lows ?
you may see your struggles in a different light 10 years from now.
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Prashant
07-07 11:24 PM
ONLY TEAM EFFORT CAN BRING US JUSTICE..
Majority of us would just like to make a point but do nothing about it.
If dtekkedil wouldnt have pushed the way he had .. gandhigiri would have been buried by now.
Krishnam70 thanx for letting the ball roll...
IV core, I can't thank you much for all the selfless effort u guys put in.
Thank you
Majority of us would just like to make a point but do nothing about it.
If dtekkedil wouldnt have pushed the way he had .. gandhigiri would have been buried by now.
Krishnam70 thanx for letting the ball roll...
IV core, I can't thank you much for all the selfless effort u guys put in.
Thank you
bombaysardar
04-18 06:57 PM
exact same situation:confused:
gc_lover
07-20 07:41 AM
I am in for $100.
By the way if we have 20,000 members and even if each pledge $5, we can reimburse the core team expenses. How often we have to teach and tell the Math to our so called highly skilled free riders.
Some should be feeling really guilty for using IV and not contributing till now. Come out the stingy attitude and help.
Thats because 19,236 members hide somewhere when there are talks about $.
If some people want to criticize IV same 19,236 members will be first to jump on forums and post messages!
PS: 19,236 is just a made up number!
By the way if we have 20,000 members and even if each pledge $5, we can reimburse the core team expenses. How often we have to teach and tell the Math to our so called highly skilled free riders.
Some should be feeling really guilty for using IV and not contributing till now. Come out the stingy attitude and help.
Thats because 19,236 members hide somewhere when there are talks about $.
If some people want to criticize IV same 19,236 members will be first to jump on forums and post messages!
PS: 19,236 is just a made up number!
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